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@Beckett @Mystes I'm pretty sure that Cadey's diagnosis for Schizophrenia was because she was legitimately hearing voices, not related to tulpas.
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That is more believable, yes.
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Random thought but for those of you that believe in an after life and the soul, do you believe tulpas have a soul? Or just die when you do ?
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You may get more responses in #metaphysics.
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I've been thinking about that a lot, but I'm not even a meta person. I don't know what gave me the idea.
7:53 PM
Well, it mostly came earlier today when I was waiting to go out for the morning and I had to wait a whole hour doing nothing.
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First, you have to figure out if there's even an afterlife. And if there is, is it for souls or minds? (ever consider if those two things are separate?)
7:56 PM
From what i've heard, the consensus is, tulpas are minds and not souls. But, if your mind is preserved during whatever mythical afterlife you reckon awaits you, then there's a good chance your tulpa will be there too.
7:56 PM
Personally? . . . Bull shit. Dunno if there's an afterlife, dunno what a soul even does if there were one. . . Kinda dislike the idea that its only born humans that get them. Seems kinda arbitrary to me.
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Yea i dont know how i feal about the whole thing bit thought it might be an interesting topic. Ive head to see largs response from first tulpa anyways lol . But the idea of it bleeping out at the end had me slightly sentamental haha
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Not to worry. You both will.
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Sweet
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Thats dark. :P
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Another topic, i posted in beginner thead too but wasnt sure if it fit better here : I have a general concept for the physical features of first tulpa, but i cant get a clear vision of her face . Ive tried not ti focus on it too much and let her make the choice but when trying to force i find it distracting that i cant see a clear face other the shifting images of other people i know. I know human minds arnt supposed to be able to.create new faces so... any tips guys ?
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if possible, find a reference that resembles her, or use some character creator to make one
8:03 PM
you're right that it is hard to create a new face and visualise it well
8:03 PM
oops, you posted in beginners too
8:03 PM
I guess that is beginner advice
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I responded there.
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Character creator ? Like an animated program , cuz as much as having a little anime character running through my head , i would rather think of human features lol
8:05 PM
Thanks winter
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yeah, if you don't want an anime-style one, maybe a character creator from a video game
8:05 PM
or maybe there are good standalone ones
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A character creator could work. Typically, however, you won't be able to visualize every single detail.
8:06 PM
Focus on the important details - the eyes are one of the primary things to focus on.
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although I would say that an anime-esque reference is still better than nothing when it comes to visualising faces
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Yes i mainly focus on her eyes actually
8:07 PM
And a few pieces of jewlery that she seemed to give her self
8:09 PM
Ya ill give a few methods a try ive already told her many times, to feel free to shift to the form that suits her . Thanks guys . Also winter, in reaponse to your reply. I have been also trying to just talk to her without focusing on visuals . I think ive heard her voice a couple times but not too sure .
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Alright. In the end, you can always talk leaving space for her to respond, but simply... don't expect a response.
8:10 PM
It may happen, or it may not for awhile. Either is fine.
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Ya i started the proccess a few months ago but git nervous and under dedicated but i started again and been passive forcing every day for the past few
8:11 PM
Past week or so actually
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Good.
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Anyone ever used the technique of allowing tulpa to chamge size, for the perpose of seeing/focus on them while passive forcing them? Basically trying to impose them but since they have the option to be small, u can see them easily while u r doing other things ? Just a thought
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oh yeah, all the time, as convenience dictates
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Eh, nothing is stopping you from just visualizing their whole form even if they're not always "in frame"
5:10 AM
Since a lot of my visualization is done from my perspective as a tulpa, I kinda need to be able to see most of me anyways
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Cool thanks for input guys @Mystes intrresting to see other people thinking that way. @Maya ye i sometimes think of her out of frame fully but that sometimes takes more attention then i have
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Dunno if I'll actually find help here but I'll try Back in October/November, I intentionally shattered my personality in an egocide attempt I came back after a couple weeks, and my personality didn't fully recover I don't really know how it's possible. But my identity is just one big ambiguous mess. I have contradictory thoughts. I took a personality test and the results were all right down the middle, 50% It's been months. I've tried fronting, writing, talking, everything. It doesn't seem to be getting any better. I don't know who I am anymore. I don't know what to do at this point
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Do you feel okay right now?
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What do you mean?
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Do you feel stressed, anxious, about to commit egoside again?
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No, I'm just at a loss
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I have a meditation technique that could help you find clarity if you'll indulge me
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Probably involving symbolism I assume
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mmm not really, no
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bduddy #Diana# 4/13/2018 2:28 PM
maybe use some personality forcing techniques? either on yourself, or have your system-mates help.
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I don't want you to hurt yourself
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We really don't believe in personality forcing anymore
2:30 PM
Personality is natural to us, forcing it is just meaningless placebo. I want to find me
2:30 PM
Not the me we'd prefer me to be, the real me
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I had a little bit of an identity crisis before, but the context was completely different
2:31 PM
Cat had just found out about Tulpas and she wasn't sure if I was me, even though she had figured out she had a Tupper in her head.
2:33 PM
My tip would be just relaxing and knowing that you are you. You remember who you are, the past happened, and even if your opinions change that's probably because you were not you from October. I'm not the same me I was in January, and I am a completely different person from the me in October.
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The problem is that I don't know who I am, now
2:34 PM
My personality is a contradictory, ambiguous mess
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You mentioned taking a personality test... did you take that same test in October?
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I have no idea
2:36 PM
The point of mentioning that was that all the results were 50%
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can you give me a link to the test?
2:39 PM
...or at least, what was the test called? (edited)
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I only ask because there are some insane garbage personality tests out there.
3:06 PM
Cat knows a singleton who usually scores "50%" on those things, so it doesn't mean they have no personality or anything.
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@Felight if it helps, i dont think ive ever knowing who i truly am and invmy oppinion i dont think many people really do. My personality is 50/50 too it seems that for every thought or belief i have there is another side of me that wants/feels the opposite. And this has been before my knowledge of tuplas . Although some times i wonder if i created a shadow side of my self in tulpa form by mistake . Cuz there are often dark thoughts and voices that plegue me, and they seem to have more sentience then any tulpa i have intentually tried to make. Thoughts ?
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if you're open to understand and forgive yourself you can just, treat those thoughts and voices as thoughtforms and actually interact with them until you solve their situation
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...wait the voices feel more sentient than your Tulpa?
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All though if the dark side of me was a tulpa i cant allow myself to kill it off as it seems to offer another perspective. One that could be valuable especially in self defence
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yeah that definitely sounds a productive avenue of more open communication
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Yes , i havent been forcing that dedicated for that long on my first tulpa though
3:14 PM
I agree with both statementa @Mystes
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I have a collection of notes that goes more in detail wrt the technique
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Last reply was in respomse to cat btw
3:15 PM
Id love to Dm about it later cel but im at work atm
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Sure. I may not be online then, but feel free to pm me.
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@Gray i was taking to Cel about DM but i was replying to you that yes there are voices that are stronger then my intentional tulpa
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Do those strong voices bother you?
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Anyone here experience negative effects from switching several times over the course of a day?
3:37 PM
Our personalities sometimes start to blend together when we do that, which is somewhat unpleasant. That's why we avoid such frequent switching
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I haven't heard of that, but I feel like if you're going to switch that it should be for a more extended period of time without much interruption (at least if you're sure of that) but I'm no expert on switching since we've been on possession for years.
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That's why I do prefer extended switch
3:58 PM
I hold the body for as long as I can, between a week and a month, then I get exhausted and hand the body off to Jacqlyn or Janis
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We've experienced blending before when one of us is fully possessing alone, and a question comes up that only someone in the back can answer which pulls them forward
4:07 PM
If you're attempting to switch for some amount of time and keep needing to switch back due to interruptions, it's better if you make sure you have longer periods to switch, or learn to impersonate your host.
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Well, at this point I don't think I actually even bother impersonating him. I just do my own thing. My host was weird enough that others probably assumed the chance was just him settling down or something
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Lol
4:46 PM
@Gray well considering they normally say things like "youre a piece of shit or end your life or use the knife u are holding on your self, or that persons lying to you , the world is fake , love isnt real, you are weak " it can be unpleasent, bu its gotten to the point where i.kind of get off on it as sick entertainment
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My host sometimes hops on in and talks when I'm switched for a while. Happens out of the blue and it bugs me every time. I tend to have an inner monologue to try to keep focused on what's going on. Using a body that isn't mine is weird.
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Its probably just my own sick personality but it feels stronger then that at times , im just entertaining the idea that i may have mistakimgly created one. Since i been saying for years that i feel like more then 1 person . Before reaserching tulpas . But thats one reason i created Synthiah to help us find balance
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I've kinda made this body mine
5:24 PM
by giving it pink hair
5:24 PM
to match my own form
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Is your host in the back more often then front, no days ?
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Any tips on forcing while asleep ?
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aside from managing to lucid dream, is that even possible?
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Their host is gone
6:06 PM
I doubt forcing while sleeping is possible
6:07 PM
Least not intentionally
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mm I've got something about it
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